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Verfasst: Mo Dez 23, 2002 4:11 pm
von Celebaglar
Lord Skar,
You have repeatedly said you with the war against Lord Potter to end. You can do this now: persuade Lord Potter to accept the fair and reasonable proposal regarding division of land that we have made him. x-pos 298 and east to belong to the Lords Celebaglar and Thaddaeus as already agreed in a treaty between us, while Lord Potter is free to do with the lands to the west whatever he wishes from x-pos 297 westwards. This gives Lord Potter further southern expansion possiblities than Leesti will have, as we become limited by natural borders and treaties on all sides.
Lord Skar, unless you seek to turn all the inhabitants of Nonakesh into your slaves, you will ensure Lord Potter signs peace treaties with Leesti and Takkatukkaland, and that he sticks to them. That is the way of peace.
It is unfortunate that you did not reply to our earlier attempts at diplomatic contact. Much of the current conflict may have been avoided.
Verfasst: Mo Dez 23, 2002 6:43 pm
von Skar
Dear Lord Celebaglar,
Lord Charras, Lord Potter and myself have been negotiating for peace yesterday evening. Since neither you nor Lord Baltasar could attend, we decided to postpone it to another day.
Please let us know at which time you would be able to join us in the tavern.
With Best Regards,
Satai Skar
PS: Until now, you have not, to my knowledge, made any attempt to contact me, even though this wouldn't have been a problem since I'm in constant contact with Lord Charras
Verfasst: Mo Dez 23, 2002 7:26 pm
von Celebaglar
Greetings Lord Skar,
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
We are unable to join you in the tavern due to technical difficulties. These would make it impossible for us to carry out a negotiation there.
Our requirements for peace from Lord Potter have always been the same: the land from x-pos 298 and eastwards (inclusive) would belong to us and Lord Thaddaeus to our south, with whom we have a peace and demarcation treaty. This also encloses our lands completely so that we would not be able to expand further.
In return Lord Potter would get the lands from x-pos 297 westwards (inclusive), potentially covering a four-acre wide strip from his own town all the way south to that owned by Larne Du Coureur, at y-pos 6310. This would give Potter up to 39 acres of land and a possible route south either side of Larne Du Coureur, which is a considerably better position that we in Leesti find ourselves.
In view of this we feel that our demands are both fair and reasonable, specially as the agreement would involve us giving up more of what we now hold that Lord Potter would have to - although Lord Potter is currently annexing our land.
As long as no agreement is in place we reserve the right to repel any forces east of x-pos 297 by force, and to annex any acres on x-pos 298 or to the east of it.
Lord Potter was approached by our emmissary with a personal message when he turned his forces eastwards, but he pretended not to speak our language. When this did not deter us, his language skills mysteriously improved, but he would only accept our proposal if it meant he could also take any land along x-pos 298 that he reached first. Since this meant squeezing us even further east we could not agree.
Lord Skar, Leesti is a peaceful and friendly realm, as the Lords Charras, Elwim, Deverry, Baltasar, Thaddaeus and Stoertebecker can all testify. We wish only that we be allowed to grow and develop in peace, while having access to enough resources and food to do so. Lord Potter suggests that we should get what we need from the sea, but we cannot do this without a port and ships, and we will not be able to build either without food and resources.
We know that Lord Potter has rejected all our offers because he feels safe in his support from rich western patrons who are financing his expansion. We also realise that those patrons would not want to lose their investment, and so they might intervene on Lord Potter's behalf. This would dispel any illusion that the nations of Nonakesh are anything but a slave people, and would make others wonder if they are the next ones to be removed if they do not submit.
We clearly feel we cannot trust Lord Potter, who has already attempted to deceive us, and who is seeking expansion at any cost. Therefore, even if the peace treaty is accepted, we would require a guarantee that Lord Potter would not be permitted to resume hostilities once everyone has gone home and he has recovered from the results of his current indiscretion.
Lord Skar, we want, and need, peace! However, we wish to be a small but thriving realm, and will not submit to the expoitation by greedy neighbours with no respect for our needs.
If you need to send us a messenger pigeon, Lord Charras should have one to spare.
Verfasst: Di Dez 24, 2002 10:39 am
von Jinx
please excuse my question...
what exactly is meant by "western forces"? do you really mean lords of
western tamar, the old world? this is really ridiculous, as nonakesh
is REALLY far away and only one lord of old tamar has reached the
coast of nonakesh. this was not long ago, so it is impossible he could
have "sponsored" lord potter or even send troops. believe me..
nonakesh is so far away from here, that the cost for shipping the
armys would be much higher than the gain in helping a lord could be.
not only that, it is forbidden for us to land troops on nonakesh, we
are only allowed to trade.
please do not tell lies...
greetings,
lord jinx
Verfasst: Di Dez 24, 2002 11:02 am
von Celebaglar
Lord Jinx,
Please do not accuse us of telling lies unless you are sure what we are talking about.
By "western lords" we mean Lords who live to the west of the Leesti and Langenbrauk part of Nonakesh, not those lords who live outside Nonakesh. Most of the Lords who live to the west of us have been on Nonakesh for longer and are therefore more powerful. The Lords Skar, Agomar, Chutulhu and Axxis are examples of Lords of Nonakesh that we would consider "Western" to us.
We do not know who has been sponsoring Lord Potter, though we have our suspicions, but that the sponsorship is taking place cannot be in doubt as anyone who has seen the items Lord Potter has put up for sale lately would confirm. There is no other explanation to why anyone would be putting 10 items (the minimum) of cheap weapons for sale at 5,000 GP each, specially when demand for such weapons on the open market is low.
Please do not insult our intelligence. Lord Potter is being sponsored, but his sponsor lives on Nonakesh.
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Lord Celebaglar of Leesti
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Verfasst: Mi Dez 25, 2002 12:52 am
von Jinx
so you may accept my apologies. nonakesh is on the far east of tamar,
so it sounded pretty much like you meant the lords here. such things
could give bad blood here, so i just wanted to make it clear.
Verfasst: Mi Dez 25, 2002 9:35 am
von Chutulhu
Dear Lord Celebaglar,
I myself have quite something else on my hands. Namely a multifront war, so I'm in no position to support Potter.
The first Lord from Eternia has already arrived at Nonakesh. It is Lord Alberich, the trader king, as somebody started caling him. You can get every weapon and armour if you can afford it, from him
As for Lord Potters market offers, it is only natural to use every means to get support from other Lords. If they think that his cause is the right one, then they will support him. The market place is just the only open type of support. Since Lord Potter is able to send trade contracts, he can get the money from this without anybody seeing it. Also weapons can be send to him without anybody knowing, so that is a far bigger thread to you
I have no clue yet who is on which side, I don't even know which are the main opposing parties in this war of yours
Regards,
Chutulhu, despot from the flaming nether regions
Verfasst: Mi Dez 25, 2002 10:54 am
von Celebaglar
Yuletide greetings Lord Chutulhu,
Let us assure your lordship that there has been no finger of suspicion pointed in the direction of your realm. We welcome your trade and ambassadors in Leesti at any time.
The argument in question is essentially a local border dispute, resulting from a lack of timely negotiations prior to the incident. For the sake of local security and stability it is better to have a local resolution rather than one imposed by outside influences and interests. Such interventions would destabilise the entire region, not just those parties involved in the conflict.
We take your comments regarding Lord Potter's ability to acquire new weapons in the informative spirit that it was intended. We would point out however, that Lord Potter has only recently acquired a trade registry and therefore the ability to carry out such transactions out of the public eye.
I am therefore pleased to inform you that the door for a diplomatic resolution has now been opened, and if final negotiations go to plan an appropriate announcement will be made soon.
With peaceful Yuletide regards,
Lord Celebaglar of Leesti
Winter 266