Tales of Tamar

Poseidon makes TOT crash,hang and so on.

most common issue is when you try to start TOT , it simply wont many times and you must reboot, so atm we need to press OFFLINE in order to get ToT to run at all.

Offline = Poseidon offline , not the tcpip stack.

i removed the spider 2 card , and still TOT crashed if the poseidon is online.

i removed poseidon install and left spider 2 card in , Tot worked fine.

i contacted Chris about it, and he claims its NOT an poseidon error but an TOT error.

and chris was correct since this is the only game that crash with poseidon online, and it seems tot is not very osfriendly when it comes to mouse handling/keyboard handling/system units handling.

a good example is , run a amigaos commodity and your map screen will e useless in tot , as you cant use Right mouse button actions.
(ie attack , annex , guard etc)

Another one is , heavy disk access causes the game to freeze , and lockup so you will have to reboot.

to prove this? , easy.. start directory opus and copy files when you play in TOT , game will lock up and dopus will stop fuctioning and you will need to reboot.

hope theese bugs can be looked at, and yes i am sure .thats why i have been quiet for 2 months to make sure this is NOT only my problem.

and yes i use A REAL Amiga, no emu shit.

Hi tamarian,

What can i say ? I your eyes i am a liar, if i say something against your opinion, so i think i cant help.

Let me try to explain:

first: Here was already a thread for this topic.

second: if the only program which let ToT crash is Poseidon, then Poseidon must be also the reason for that crash! At the time when Matador reports that problem i investigated it and i found that something is wrong with the tasks of poseidon (its only one routine of ToT who has that problem). But i never got further debug reports.

This means. If i dont get good debug reports i will and i cant change that.

third: I dont have a crash when i copy files with DOPus in the background. All works fine. And please dont forget that the cpu is 100% busy if you own only a ide drive. This means that every task will hang on until the ide is free again. (I just tried it)

fourth: I know very much games, who has problems with hacks & pachtes. ToT has p.e. also problems with magic menu like some other applications too. I know that. Look in the FAQ to solve this problem. And i never got any debug reports for other hack & patches (or commodities). Without debug reports i cant solve anything.

wolfen: ermm what is the attitude about? , i have never said you was a liar and i dont belive you are one either, if thats the reply i will get every time i write something on here then ok i will stop!.

anyway for the poseidon errors:

i didnt notice another report done, and to be honest i dont care because all posts are old! and before last update.

poseidon and usb stuff is a hack on an amiga! , it lines up diffrent ways for this as stated in the manual.
(none that should be of any conflict with tot)

For the copying problem , i am on scsi uw and on powerflyer , if i use powerflyer then its like you described on an 030 cpu or so, doesnt happen here, but it locks up until copying is done as you said but when you return to tot IT CRASH!.

on my scsi, it crash in a matter of seconds and cpu bar is low (under 40%)

commodities , multiCX is one , tot is not friendly with that one, magicmenu i didnt know of but i will make sure to have this removed when i play next time.

anyway if you dont want more bug reports its ok by me but i cant see why you are so hostile about this, i enjoy this game 100% but i hate the bugs so much i am considering to stop playing.

also how do you make a DEBUG on something if the game just REBOOTS instantly?, please email me a cli line or something for how you want the logs to be done, then i will show you what happens , until then its impossible because DEFIANT crash here in 99% of the cases which leaves me with a reboot or a total hang, ie NO DEBUGGER available to output.

good luck and i am sorry to upset you with bug reports.

wolfen: btw what hardware and os did you try the copying on ? , was it an real AMIGA or in uae? i dont use uae.

just to make that part clear!

(it just crashed again, thats why i ask now)

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On 2003-11-05 14:31, Wolfen wrote:
Sorry about the liar. Its very difficult for me to find the right words in english.

I tried it on an amiga 4000.

If you want to test with me the problem of ToT/Poseidon then write me an email.
If i get good feedback i can fix everything

I will send you then special versions for testing.

For a debug report start ToT like this :

ToT-Client-debug >[Path:]Debug.txt

But make sure that Path: is not a partition which contains important data, because of validating problems.

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Regards
Wolfen
Spielleitung

Ok. Because you didn't sent any bugreport to me i had to test it on my own.

With a demo version of Poseidon and the new driver from Guido Mersmann for Amithlon i could fix the bug.

Regards
Wolfen

wolfen: i didnt send no , because i planned on sending more than one file and guess what , when i run debug it doesnt crash in the same ways as before (except for poseidon) , when poseidon is removed then the game doesnt crash anymore (if i run DEBUG) , without debug it crash from time to time.

sorry about not sending the debugs but i will do it as soon as possible and remeber i aint a regular on theese forums nor on the tavern.

cheers